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Alexei Bauman

FSCCLub received a couple of e-mails from Englishmen Vic, Denise and Cindy. We forwarded them to our expert Alexei Bauman and asled him to communicate with these individuals. We are placing their correspondence just with minor corrections. We apologize to sensitive people for some straightforward candor existing in them. We consider this correspondence to be a great ethnographic description of English interior, which is almost unknown in Russia (in contrast to "The Beatles").


Denise

Denise:
"He fought over me once - that's why we're together - he won me in a fistfight..."
"When I had her well pinned she tried to grab me in the crotch..."

Cindy

Cindy:
"Time will tell if she's got the spunk to face me woman to woman..."
"I tore her bra off, hit her in the face several times..."
"I reckon I'm a better woman than she is..."


Denise:

Dear Alexei, I want to tell you about my fighting experience in the both kinds of roles: as a participant and as a watcher. I've got a man friend (not a lover!) who is very keen on sword duels. He pointed me to your WEB site. I think he may have written to you himself, his name is Vic. By the way, he was a witness of a spontaneous fight between two women at a nature camp and he took their picture in secret. Vic is a nice guy but not man enough for me ("man enough" means that he can whip other guys' ass - L.V.)

About myself. I am 45, divorced but living with a guy who is much, much younger than me (great sex together) who loves fist fighting. His name is Dan and there isn't a guy round here he can't whip in a fistfight. But my fight with Cindy was nothing to do with him, so what happened was we both watched our 16-year old sons fight and when my son Terry whipped her kid's ass she made some half-joking remark about me leaving all the fighting to Terry and she would bet that I wasn't a woman enough to take her on. Well, my pride wouldn't take that so I accepted her challenge. I think I would have beaten her, but luckily for her she managed to put me on my back. Then she straddled me and put her hand in the waistband of my shorts saying that she pull them down and my panties as well if I didn't give up. Well, I couldn't take that, not with the boys watching, so I gave up. But we're quite good friends really, and next week she's coming round to my place for a few drinks and then she's going to give me a chance to get my own back, woman to woman. The only other fight I've had was at school, but I've gone on long enough already so I'll tell you about that some other time. I hope I haven't bored you. Your Denise.

Alexei

Dear Denise. Everything you have written is very interesting for us. Please inform us about developing of the situation. Regards, Alexei Vilenkin.

Denise:

Dear Alexei. My semi-friendly fight with Cindy is definitely going ahead and I'll tell you more when it happens. Cindy and I have decided that the winner will e-mail you direct. That probably means you'll get the result from me, but you never know so wish me luck. We live in Oxfordshire, England. I live in a village called Church Hanborough and Cindy lives about ten miles away. We both work at a riding stable, looking after the horses. The stable is owned by Vic, which is how we all know each other. Terry is my only kid but Cindy has Wayne, who had his ass whipped by Terry and is going to again, a girl 14 and another boy 11. They all enjoy a fight except Cindy's husband who is a fat layabout and a waste of space, and I think she's got her eye on my Dan. She'll be lucky!

While I am waiting for the revenge match with Cindy, I want to tell you something about Dan's fighting experience. Dan loves to fight because by doing so he can prove his manhood. When he's winning a fight he gets sexually aroused, particularly if I'm watching. It's very exciting to see that bulge in his shorts swell as he punches the other guy into submission! I must confess that I usually take my knickers off before watching him fight, as I know he'll want me afterwards! His fights are usually semi-private as a result of a challenge with just me and the other guy's wife or girlfriend watching. Also they usually bet $100 or so which the winner pockets. I'm not going to pretend that Dan always wins, he took a good thrashing last month for instance. And yes, it's bare fists, and yes, there's blood! When he loses he gets angry with himself and just wants to go to bed - alone. Dan fought over me once - that's why we're together - he won me in a fistfight. How it happened? I fancied Dan and this other young guy and when they realized this they both wanted me of course (just like young men!) so I sort of goaded them into a fight. Yes, if that guy had been man enough to whip Dan then sure, it would be him screwing me now. But I've got a pic of Dan stripped naked after the fight and that proves why I've got no complaints things turned out the way they did…

Dan won't be watching me and Cindy fight. He's too protective and would interfere - it will be just our two sons fighting each other, then us. Cindy doesn't want any pix taken - sorry! As I say, it's semi-friendly, so I expect to get sexually aroused and I THINK Cindy does too. If we finish up losing our pants well... what the hell... The boys will be wearing something though. And I have to confess that I did enjoy watching Terry fight for much the same reasons (though of course I kept my panties on then!) But here's a secret - I get turned on at the thought of Terry having sex with a girl after he's won a fight. Is that so wicked of me? I love fighting but professional boxing and wrestling bore me to death - they consist of a lot of glitzy overweight clowns fooling about. It's about as erotic as cold soup. Your XXX Denise.

Alexei

Denise! Wish you to win in your contest with Cindy. Please be careful and wrestle honestly without inflicting damage to each other. Yours Alexei.

Denise:

Dear Alexei! Thanks for your good wishes, which will help to sustain me in the fight ahead and encourage me to try harder! I'm probably just a silly woman but I'm afraid I may have left you with the impression that Cindy and I were going to fight naked in front of our sons. This is not the case and we'll try not to let it happen. I wouldn't want you to get the wrong idea. All the best Alexei from XXX Denise.

Vic:

Dear Alexei. I've always found the idea of women fighting duels very exciting - ever since I saw a film called "Idol of Paris" in 1947! And it was about the same time that I saw Emile Bayard's painting "An Affair of Honour". I'd like to read your articles about women duels in English but of course I understand that you must be a busy man, so I'll wait (eagerly) - but I do so want to read anything on that subject - it really turns me on... with very best wishes from rainy England - Your Vic.

Alexei, Here's the picture I want to show you. I took it a few years ago when I was staying at a nature camp - I am a member and there is a lot of sexual rivalry at nature camps. This fight however broke out over some money problem and when I realized what was happening I took the picture without the girls knowing. Unfortunately the fight was soon broken up, but not before the girl on the left had received quite a good thrashing, leaving her in tears. Regards, Vic.

Alexei

Dear Vic. Thank you for the picture - it's of a very good quality, congratulations! The FSCClub will be able to publish just the upper part of it though . Regards, Alexei.

Nude fist fight
Fistfight in a nudist summer camp in England - snapshot taken by Vic

Vic:

Dear Alexei. Knowing your interest in the psychology of single combat I thought you might be interested in something I've just read in an old (1890's) travel book. It's by a Swiss, A.J. Wesseling. Apparently he traveled extensively in Africa, and met a tribe of what he describes as "very handsome savages" who made something of a ritual out of wrestling. Young men were expected to fight each other to gain honour and the women did much the same. But before each match the contestants, whether it was a male or a female fight, would stand with their legs apart and piss. The interesting thing that Wesseling noticed was that the contestant who pissed the most (who made the biggest puddle) as he put it almost invariably won the subsequent fight! Apparently he had observed a similar phenomenon in the animal kingdom, but provided no further details. Interesting!

You may have heard that Denise Briggs and Cindy Thomas are to settle their dispute next Wednesday, as are their two boys. They've asked if they can use my stable yard, and I've agreed. I'm also going to act as referee, which is rather exciting, but no doubt you'll hear what happens from them. I'm still anxious for anything about dueling. I do hope I haven't taken up too much of your time with this lengthy e-mail. All the best Vic.

Cindy:

Dear Mr. Vilenkin. I hope you didn't mind the way I got in touch with you. Denise Briggs and I had agreed that whoever came out the winners in our "family feud" would tell you about it. But she's a bad loser and tried to make it hard for me. Anyway, we had our fights yesterday. The boys had a fight that was straight, clean wrestling, and my boy Wayne whipped her Terry's ass! They just wore tight-fitting white shorts and really let fly at each other. After some really hard action Wayne had Terry in a schoolboy pin and asked him if he wanted to give in. But that dirty cow Denise shouted at her Terry to grab Wayne's balls! I told her to shut up, and luckily Terry decided to give in - he was nearly in tears because he knew that my boy was better than him. He'd been lucky enough to beat Wayne in a previous fight and Wayne just couldn't wait to show him who was the better kid! I was so proud of Wayne! When I gave him a hug I could feel his hard cock against me and I whispered "You'd better go and give that girlfriend of yours a good fucking!" And he replied: "Not until I've seen you whip Denise's ass I'm not! Now take your shirt off Mum and take the pants off her!" I was really excited at this attitude and was determined not to let him down, and to uphold the family honour. So I did as he said, took my shirt off and Mrs. Briggs did the same and we faced each other in jeans and bras. And then we went at each other!

But what started as a friendly fight soon turned nasty because Denise Briggs is a dirty cow. She's very strong and wiry, and soon she had me pinned, but that wasn't good enough for her. The thing is, Mr. Vilenkin, as you can see from the picture I've got quite big breasts and I've also got fairly prominent nipples. So Denise pulled my bra down and started pinching my breasts and teasing my nipples. Well, I just saw red! The adrenaline started to flow and I just gave a mighty heave and threw her off me. We rolled over and over until I finished up on top. And then I let her have it. I tore her bra off, hit her in the face several times. I'm ashamed to say and when she started swearing at me I scratched her with my bare nails - right down her breasts, drawing blood. She yelled at me to stop and that was the end of the fight. I'm not proud of the way it finished, but please tell me what you think of me - honestly!

There was a bit more. Later that evening her Dan came up to me and asked me out for a drink, and also asked me if I'd like to see his next fight. So, who knows, I might have her man as well as her ass! By the way, Vic sends regards and thanks you VERY much for something you sent him about dueling and says he'll be in touch. Now there's a thought, I wonder if I'd have the spunk for a knife fight if I were challenged... probably not. Incidentally Denise thinks Vic is a wimp but I quite fancy him... All the best,

Alexei

Cindy. I am admiring your valor and fighting spirit. But certainly I can't admire breast scratching. I also have concerns about your husband who won't be happy… I'd like to publish your letters on the site. Do you mind? Your Alexei.

Shakespear horrors
Artwork from Drew Hammond's Collection

Cindy:

Dear Mr. Vilenkin, Yes, of course you can tell people about my fight. I'm proud to have licked the bitch! I reckon I'm a better woman than she is. Don't worry about my husband. He's not man enough to do anything about who I screw around with! All the best, Yours with respect Cindy Thomas (Mrs.) Please write to me again. I like hearing from you! Cindy.

Denise:

Dear Alexei. I know that Cindy has been sounding off to you about how she and Wayne whipped me and Terry. But did she tell you that when Wayne got my Terry pinned he put his hand inside Terry's shorts and started to squeeze his testicles. When I saw this I shouted to Terry to grab Wayne's balls in retaliation, but it was too late, my poor kid couldn't take it, and gave in. But she's a dirty fighter as well, and did almost the same thing to me, when I had her well pinned she tried to grab me in the crotch and stab me there with her fingers and it hurt. So whatever she told you, she's a dirty fighter and I don't want you to think any the less of me for losing by fighting fair. Please write soon Alexei, and tell me that I'm still OK in your book. XXX Denise.

Alexei

Dear Denise! Whether or not a woman won a fight, my opinion about her doesn't correlate with this fact. I have different criteria. But it's very interesting to me to find out about developing of your rivalry with Cindy. Frankly speaking, it's surprising to me the way you two try to prove who is a better woman. Your way is straight contest rather than the traditional women's ways. Another thing is perplexing me - how ferocious you go against each other.

Alexei

Vic, Thank you. I just received two mutual exclusive versions from your ladies. Cindy announced her and her son to be the unconditional victors whereas Denise clamed that the both opponents used dirty moves: Wayne grabbed Terry by testicles and that Cindy did something similar to her. I am going to publish all the letters - it turned out to be the very interesting epistolary report. Sending translation of the new article about female duels. Regards, Alexei

Cindy:

Dear Mr. Vilenkin. Last night I screwed the Briggs woman's man. He was great. OK he's young enough to be my son, but I reckon I showed him a thing or two! Just wait till the cow finds out! I don't know whether I'm looking forward to that or not. Stay in touch - I think you're another real man in a world of wimps. All the best Mrs. Cindy Thomas XXX.

Alexei

Dear Cindy. You mentioned a fistfight that Dan invited you to watch. I guess it happened and was followed by your coming together. Please tell us about te fight in detail. I am wondering if you are OK if I publish everything you have written to me. Your Alexei.

Cindy:

Dear Alexei (is it OK to call you Alexei?). Let me put you in the picture. Dan asked me to go and see him fight. It was a fistfight between him and a young black guy. They were stripped down to skimpy white shorts and I have to say they both looked great. But the kid was no match for Dan, although Dan isn't much more than a kid himself. He just punched the guy in the face until he drew blood (there were side-bets on who got first blood) and then went for his belly until the black kid couldn't take any more and threw in the towel. Then Dan just stood there waving, and you could see his erection poking his shorts out, almost going through them. I'm going to have HIM I thought, and half an hour later I was in his bed...

But... now he wants me to fight Mrs. Briggs again, this time for him. Now don't forget Alexei that I've already whipped her ass twice, so I reckon I'm a better woman than she is, but Dan is determined to get us at each other again. Well, I'm ready for that bitch, but only time will tell if she's got the spunk to face me woman to woman. But I warn you, if and when I beat her again, this time I'm going to have her panties off and keep them as a souvenir. And you can publish any of this you like. But listen, why don't you try and find out her feelings and let me know, if you don't think that's being too sly! All the best Alexei. And I still reckon you would be good in bed too...

From Mrs. Cindy Thomas.

Pugilists
English ladies in a fistfight match, XIX century
Powerhouse Museum Collection

Alexei

Cindy, Sorry, but I would prefer to keep neutrality in your conflict with Mrs. Briggs. Frankly speaking, I don't too much happy when two women are scrapping and inflict damages to each other but since it happen I have to report it as a reporter (who I actually am here). I want to ask you what kind of fight Dan wants you to have - fistfight, wrestling or free form. I am also wondering if you consider this to be fair that you have two men know whereas Denise doesn't have anyone. Regards Alexei.

Cindy:

Dear Alexei. I quite understand why you won't go between Mrs. Briggs and myself, it's true that you would have to be fair, and I respect that. In answer to your questions - it's up to her what sort of fight it is, I'll whip her ass whatever. But I'm beginning to think she will face me again because she wants to keep Dan, and because she wants to regain the respect of the people who know about our feud. I would like Dan to be there to referee and to see fair play, but I doubt if she'll agree to that. Anyway, I'll keep you informed. Incidentally Wayne and Terry are also going to fight again because they've both beaten each other once and want to decide finally who is the top kid. All the best Alexei from Mrs. Cindy Thomas.

P.S. Don't worry about me having two men, I'll handle that but Mrs. Briggs doesn't deserve to have any. My so-called husband is a waste of space - and lousy in bed!

Vic:

Dear Alexei. What I thought was a friendly rivalry between Mrs. Briggs and Mrs. Thomas has turned out to be just a battle over a young man (much younger than either of them, I might add!). While everyone concerned is perfectly happy for you to use this material, I do apologize if you were misled in any way into thinking it was just a sporting matter. Anything new on the dueling front? All the best Vic.

Cindy:

Dear Alexei. Any idea when the single combat website is going to be updated? Dan and I keep looking hopefully and I know that Vic does as well. My daughter had a scrap with another girl last week and whipped the ass off her. I was so proud! Love and kisses, Cindy Thomas XXX.

Alexei

Cindy, the story seems not to be over yet, so the material is growing. Please give us a little bit more details about the girls' fight. Your Alexei.

Cindy:

Dear Alexei. Yes, my teenage daughter Tina came home and said another girl had challenged her to a fight and what should she do. I said get back there and face her girl to girl and don't come back until you've whipped her or been whipped. She asked me to come and watch and I said OK but I wasn't going to interfere in any way. To cut a long story short, it was a fist fight and my Tina just made mincemeat of this slightly older girl who got a bloody nose, a cut lip and her shirt torn so you could see her tits before she gave in. The fight was over something so silly I can't even remember what it was.

Yes, Mrs. bloody Briggs still wants Dan back, but she knows that if she takes me on again she'll get another beating. She can't just accept that I'm a better woman than she is! Dan wants me to fight her again though, so watch this space. All the best Alexei and stay in touch, Cindy XXX.

Alexei

Dear Cindy, very interesting! Since the story is not over let's wait for a while until the outcome between Denise and you comes. I am wondering if Dan's position between you girls will depend on the result of your fight with Denise. I also wonder if fist fighting is so widespread in England if even girls fist fight. Regards Alexei.

Shakespear horrors
English female pugilists of the ХIX century
Artwork by Andy Moore

Vic:

Dear Alexei. Apparently you've been discussing fight-fighting in England with Mrs. Thomas and she's asked me to explain how things are, as I know more about it than she does. Fistfights were the traditional way in which young males settled their quarrels, mainly fights over girls. A fight would end when one lad was knocked down and didn't get up. In recent years however this manly form of combat has been degraded and has now become a savage brawl in which fists, feet, knives or anything else may be used, and kicking a fallen rival when he is on the ground seems to be in order - unthinkable in earlier times. But, strange to say, girls and women have now taken up fist fighting, observing much the same customs as the boys used to. Mrs. Thomas told you, I believe, about the fight between her Tina and another girl. This was such an affair. The girls wore jeans and sweatshirts and fought with their fists until the other girl was defeated. Some young men will still fight with their bare fists for money, and this is what young Daniel does. Interestingly both Mrs. Thomas and Mrs. Briggs have told me that he becomes very aroused sexually when he is winning a fight. Denise Thomas told me that "He had a cock like a ramrod" after one such fight - much to her subsequent pleasure! I hope this explains the situation. Incidentally, another fight between those two women seems unlikely as Denise doesn't seem to have the stomach for it - but you never know; Dan certainly wants them to fight again! All the best Vic.

Alexei

Dear Vic, Why Dan wants the ladies to fight? Does he want to choose between them depending on the result? Or just for his pleasure? By the way, Denise told me that he was protective and would interfere if he saw her fighting. Would you like to see their fight? Your Alexei

Vic:

Dear Alexei. Thanks for the e-mail. I don't really know what motivates Dan, but I think he just likes to see a good fight as much as he likes to fight himself. He gets sexually aroused when he's fighting, and when he's watching a fight. I must admit that I do as well, but it would be difficult for me to watch Mrs. Briggs and Mrs. Thomas fighting because, although I don't own the stables I am, in effect, their employer. But you may be interested to hear that Mrs. Thomas said to me the other day that if Denise didn't stop trying to get Dan back she'd give her a good beating whether she (Denise) wanted to fight her or not. "I'll pull the bitch's panties down and spank her bare ass!" were her exact words. So, watch this space, anything could happen! All the best, Vic.

Vic:

Dear Alexei. I've just returned from a short holiday in Italy and was delighted to read your article on dueling, which I found most interesting. Will you be putting any of our correspondence on the site? Denise and Cindy are still sworn enemies and Cindy never stops boasting about the fact that she whipped Denise twice. Everyone that knows them expects them to fight again and think that they should. Even Denise's own son has said that his mother's reluctance to face and fight her rival again is making him ashamed of her because other kids are teasing him. So we'll see what happens. Dan got a beating in a fistfight last month and Cindy has now taken up with the young man that whipped him. His name is Kenny and Cindy took a photo of him straight after the fight, which she wants me to send you. I'm a but reluctant though, first because I don't think you would be interested and secondly I don't think that you approve of pictures of naked young men in a state of sexual arousal because they've just beaten a rival. So, I told her I would ask you first, but I suspect that your answer will be "No Thanks". That's about all for now Alexei but do stay in touch. Also I think that both Cindy and Denise would like to hear from you. All the best, Vic

Alexei

Dear Vic, Thank you for your update. Say hello to Denise and Cindy. I definitely will place the material (which is growing) on the site. I was just waiting for some outcome but I see that the story seems to be endless... Will see though. As I understand, Dan is available now for Denise. Isn't he? It would be good for the both women and might make peace between them. No, I am not interested in men's pictures, especially of naked ones. Let' keep in touch. Regards, Alexei

Vic:

Yes, you're quite right, and I forgot to mention it in the previous e-mail. Dan and Denise are back together again. Cindy calls them "a pair of losers together". All the best, Vic.

Alexei

Great! As we say in Russia: "I hadn't good fortune until misfortune helped. So, I am sure there are no more reasons for Denise and Cindy to fight. Please say this to them. Dan may continue fighting though, since he and his women enjoy it (but let him protect his excellent "instrument" ). I think we can finish the story with this happy end. Best wishes; appreciate this incredibly interesting story, Your Alexei.

Vic:

Dear Alexei. Thanks for the e-mail. You may be interested to hear that Denise told me today that because of the humiliation she's suffered, she's leaving the stables (probably next week) and moving away from the district. Her son is going with her, but not Dan - I think he's hoping to get back with Cindy. I sort of feel sorry for Denise. She fought Cindy and got licked, but she had the spunk to fight her again, but of course got licked again. But when a woman wants a man it's the law of the jungle I suppose. All the best, Vic.

Alexei

Dear Vic. Well, the final turned out to be different from what I would like but life is life… Please say hello and sympathy to Denise and her son who suffered in this enmity. Advise her to gain men by female attractiveness and tenderness rather than by fighting. Best wishes, the material will be placed on the site soon. Sincerely yours, Alexei.



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